Schneider makes rare move up: Check out his 33 trades with Seattle

NFL draftWhen John Schneider finally showed up to explain his first moves of the 2015 draft on Friday, he cracked of being so late, “Sorry about that; we’ve never traded up before.”

It was a joke about his penchant for moving down in the draft and a reference to his big move up in the third round to get return wiz Tyler Lockett.

It was just the second time Schneider moved up in six drafts since he was hired as Seattle’s GM. He also moved up to get defensive tackle Jesse Williams in the fifth round in 2013.

Schneider actually tried to move up in the second round Friday, but he couldn’t get high enough to take the guy he wanted — rumored to be wide receiver Dorial Green-Beckham. DGB was picked 40th overall by Tennessee.

For the first time in his six drafts, Schneider did not make a trade in the second round — although many people probably wish he had moved rather than picked controversial defensive end Frank Clark. But that’s another story.

The move up for Lockett in the third round was Schneider’s 33rd trade since he arrived in 2010. It was his 12th draft-day deal.

The trade was made with Washington, which is now run by Schneider’s longtime friend and former co-worker and employee in Seattle, Scot McCloughan.

It was the second trade Schneider has made this offseason — and both have been huge. On March 10, he sent Max Unger and Seattle’s first-rounder to New Orleans for Jimmy Graham and a fourth-rounder. That fourth was included in the package of picks he sent to Washington to get Lockett.

Discounting five trades that cannot yet be judged, we give Schneider a 11-5-12 (.607) record in trades — with Percy Harvin being such a bad move that he counts for two of the five losses.

Here’s an updated breakdown:

2 trades: 1-0-0-1
March 10: Acquired TE Jimmy Graham and a fourth-rounder (112) from New Orleans for C Max Unger and a first-rounder (31).
Result: Win.
Comment: Yeah, we’re calling this a win from the get-go. Sure, Unger is an excellent center — when he is healthy. But Graham is a top-flight tight end who will give Russell Wilson the big target the Hawks have been trying to find ever since they drafted him. Losing the first-rounder was not a big deal to Schneider because he and his staff rated just 16 players as worthy of first-round picks this year. So, to them, it was like giving up a second. And then there is the fact that the deal helped preserve Seattle’s expected third-round comp pick in 2016 for losing Byron Maxwell. There’s no reason not to like this trade.
May 1: Traded a third (95), fourth (112), fifth (167) and sixth (181) to Washington to move up 26 spots in the third round to select WR Tyler Lockett.
Result: Incomplete.
Comment: We’re tempted to call this a win right away, if only because Lockett is a great pickup for the Hawks. He’s a star return man with the capability to contribute immediately as a receiver, basically filling the run-after-catch role Golden Tate and Percy Harvin held the past two years. But until we see Lockett in action, we will have to withhold judgment. As for the value, the draft trade chart says the Hawks came out slightly ahead, giving up 229 points and getting 245. And, starting the draft with 11 picks, Schneider obviously felt he could afford to make the big move.

5 trades: 0-2-1-2
April 21: Acquired QB Terrelle Pryor from Oakland for seventh-round pick (247).
Result: Tie.
Comment: Pryor counted as part of the 2014 draft class, and he might have been the best move Schneider made on Day 3 — even though this deal was done three weeks before the draft. Pryor was a third-round supplemental pick by Oakland, and he started nine games for them in 2013. Schneider had nothing to lose by taking a flier on the supremely talented athlete, even if he didn’t make the team.

May 8: Traded No. 32 to Minnesota for No. 40 and a fourth-rounder (108).
Result: Incomplete.
Comment: If they couldn’t have traded out of the first round, the Hawks were set to take WR Paul Richardson at 32. That would have been too high. As it turned out, they moved down again and landed him at No. 45. With pick 108, they picked Cassius Marsh. Both players showed promise before getting hurt last season, and this deal will be evaluated over the next two years anyway.

May 9: Traded down from 40 to 45 with Detroit, sending the Lions a fifth-rounder (146) and acquiring a fourth (111) and seventh (227).
Result: Incomplete.
Comment: The Hawks dropped down twice and still got the guy they wanted, Richardson. Out of this deal, they ended up with FB Kiero Small (227) and they moved down again from 111 to add yet another pick (WR Kevin Norwood). Good moves by Schneider to add another pick, even if Small did not make the team. This move will be judged by how the two receivers fare over the next couple of seasons.

May 10: Traded down in the fourth round (111 to 123) with Cincinnati and added a sixth-rounder (199).
Result: Loss.
Comment: It seems like the Hawks should have netted a fifth for this move — or at least a seventh in addition to the sixth. But they ended up with an extra player (OT Garrett Scott at 199) and still got the guy they were targeting at 111, Norwood. Unfortunately, they were unaware of Scott’s heart defect, so they basically dropped 12 spots for nothing.

Oct. 17: Traded WR Percy Harvin to N.Y. Jets for a sixth-round pick (could have been a fourth if Jets had kept Harvin)
Result: Loss.
Comment: The Hawks sent three picks to Minnesota and paid $18.4 million to a guy who played in eight of 24 possible games (including playoffs). The Hawks ended up getting screwed in this deal even worse than they were in the Deion Branch move — although at least they didn’t send Harvin back to the same team that fleeced them to start with. It wasn’t hard to predict this ending. It’s a resounding loss — the biggest in Schneider’s four-plus years as Seattle GM.

5 trades: 1-1-1-2
March 12: Acquired WR Percy Harvin from Minnesota for No. 1, No. 7, 2014 No. 3
Result: Loss.
Comment: Schneider pulled off the biggest blockbuster of his tenure, gambling three picks and $67 million that Harvin would turn the Seahawks’ offense into a nuclear power. But Harvin had a reactor leak in his hip in 2013 and barely played. He showed signs of what he could do in limited game action, including returning a kick for a touchdown in the Super Bowl. The Hawks tried to design their offense around him in 2014, but his bad attitude was too much to overcome, and Schneider ended up getting his ass kicked in this deal — easily the worst move he has made as Seattle GM (we warned him not to do it).

April 1: Traded QB Matt Flynn to Oakland for No. 5 in 2014 and conditional pick in 2015
Result: Win.
Comment: After paying Flynn $8 million to back up Wilson in 2012, Schneider knew he could not do it again in 2013, so he found a team that was willing to make Flynn its starter and he foisted Flynn’s $5.25 million salary off on Oakland. Flynn lost the starting job to Pryor and was released in October. The Hawks did not get the conditional pick in 2015, but they used the fifth in 2014 to trade down in the second round and add a fourth and seventh. The fourth turned into WR Kevin Norwood and the seventh became FB Kiero Small. So, to sum it up, Schneider turned Flynn into Norwood while also saving the Hawks $3.25 million against the salary cap.

April 26: Traded No. 56 to Baltimore for No. 62 (Christine Michael), 165 and 199
April 27: Traded No. 165 and 199 to Detroit for No. 137 (Jesse Williams)
Result: Incomplete.
Comment: Schneider pulled his usual trick in the second round and moved down before drafting Michael. Then the GM used the two other picks to move up in the fifth round and draft DT Jesse Williams. Because neither Michael nor Williams has contributed, these deals have no result yet. But it’s not looking good so far.

Aug. 20: Traded OG John Moffitt to Denver for DT Sealver Siliga
Result: Tie.
Comment: The Hawks wasted a third-round pick on Moffitt, who simply didn’t have the desire to play — he retired three months after being traded and then was arrested in Chicago in March 2014 on drug possession charges. Siliga did some time on the practice squad in 2013 before finding his way onto New England’s roster. Neither team got anything out of this deal.

5 trades: 3-0-2
April 26: Dropped from 43 to 47 and picked up a fifth (154) and seventh (232) from the Eagles.
Result: Tie.
Comment: The Hawks ended up adding two picks to LB Bobby Wagner (47). LB Korey Toomer (154) was never able to stay healthy. DE Greg Scruggs (232) played quite a bit in the second half of his rookie season and then missed 2013 with an ACL injury and had injury issues again in 2014. Wagner was a great pick, but he is not a product of this trade (they could have had him at 43).

April 26: Dropped from 12 to 15 and picked up a fourth (114) and sixth (172) from the Eagles.
Result: Win.
Comment: Schneider considered dropping farther down in the first round, but he decided to grab Bruce Irvin at 15 because he thought the Jets would take him at 16. The pick was a reach, but Schneider got good value for it. DT Jaye Howard (114) was inactive for most of his rookie season and didn’t make the team in 2013, but CB Jeremy Lane (172) became a special-teams standout and saw a lot of action in his first two seasons before having a horribly unlucky 2014 season.

May 21: Acquired TE Kellen Winslow from Tampa Bay for a conditional sixth or seventh in 2013.
Result: Tie.
Comment: The deal was contingent on Winslow making the team, and the Hawks ended up cutting him after he balked at taking a pay cut. This deal was just a flier.

Aug. 20: Sent LB Barrett Ruud to New Orleans for seventh in 2013.
Result: Win.
Comment: Not a bad deal, trading an injured guy after you signed him to a cheap contract. The Saints ended up releasing him in October and the Hawks walked away with a seventh-rounder. The Hawks could have gotten another seven for Braylon Edwards if they had been willing to deal him in September, but they misjudged that situation and ended up getting nothing for him when they released him after the trade deadline.

Aug. 27: Sent QB Tarvaris Jackson to Buffalo for seventh in 2013.
Result: Win.
Comment: It would have been nice if the Hawks could have gotten more for him. The Bills buried him on the inactive list because they would have owed a sixth-rounder if he had been active for six games. Nice to have something for him but the Hawks mishandled him the entire way, from his inclusion in the bogus three-headed QB competition to the late deal. The fact that he was back a year later means the Hawks got a seventh-rounder for free. They used the selection in the package of picks they sent Minnesota for Percy Harvin in 2013.

3 trades: 1-0-2
April 28: Traded the No. 57 pick along with fifth- (No. 157) and seventh-round picks (209) to the Lions for third- (No. 75), fourth- (No. 107), fifth- (No. 154) and seventh-round picks (No. 205).
Result: Tie.
Comment: Schneider basically turned Seattle’s second-round pick into a third and fourth (the moves in the fifth and seventh were negligible). The Hawks ended up with OG John Moffitt (75), WR Kris Durham (107), CB Richard Sherman (154) and DE Pep Levingston (205). Yes, Sherman was easily the best player to come out of the deal, but the Hawks surely could have had him with their original fifth-rounder, so he is not really a product of this move. Moffitt and Durham were flops. If the Hawks had stood pat in the second, they could have had WR Torrey Smith or WR Randall Cobb. The value of this trade was good, but Schneider took the wrong players, so we’ll call it a tie.

Aug. 29: Traded CB Kelly Jennings to Cincinnati for DT Clinton McDonald.
Result: Win.
Comment: The Hawks drafted two corners in 2011 and also had Marcus Trufant and Roy Lewis (who knew Brandon Browner would end up being more significant than any of them?) and needed depth on the D-line. Jennings lasted just one year in Cincinnati, but McDonald played for the Hawks for three years and parlayed a surprising 2013 season into a nice contract from Tampa Bay.

Oct. 13: Traded LB Aaron Curry to Oakland for a 2012 seventh-rounder (OG J.R. Sweezy) and a fifth in 2013 (CB Tharold Simon).
Result: Tie.
Comment: We originally called this a loss simply because dumping the fourth overall pick should be a loss unless you come up with some great stuff out of it. But Curry’s admission that he was a lazy slug who did not try once he got paid (aka a thief) removes much of the blame from the team. Plus, Sweezy has turned into a solid starter at right guard, and the Hawks still have high hopes for Simon, even though he did not even see the field as a rookie and was burned in the 2014 playoffs. The only way this could become a win is if Sweezy or Simon turned into a Pro Bowl player.

13 trades: 5-2-6
March 8: Traded QB Seneca Wallace to Cleveland for a conditional seventh-rounder in 2011.
Result: Tie.
Comment: When this deal was originally made, it seemed like a loss, simply because it seemed Schneider could have gotten one of Mike Holmgren’s three fifth-round picks in the 2010 draft. Wallace started seven games for the Browns over two years and is now out of the league. The seventh-rounder the Hawks got went to Detroit in that Moffitt-Durham deal. So basically, the Hawks traded Wallace for Pep Levingston. Nothing for either side to crow about.

March 16: Traded DE Darryl Tapp to Philadelphia for DE Chris Clemons and a fourth-rounder (DE E.J. Wilson).
Result: Win.
Comment: Clemons had 33.5 sacks in his first three years before tearing his ACL in the 2012 playoffs and getting cut after the 2013 Super Bowl season. Tapp had six sacks in three years for Philly and then went to Detroit. This is obviously one of Schneider’s best trades, even though Wilson did not work out.

March 17: Acquired QB Charlie Whitehurst and a second-round pick (60, WR Golden Tate) from San Diego for a second-rounder (40, RB Ryan Mathews) and a 2011 third-rounder (DB Shareece Wright).
Result: Loss.
Comment: This deal was a loss when it was made, based on what the Seahawks gave up for a third-string QB. The Chargers used the second-rounder to move up in the first round and draft Mathews. The Hawks drafted Tate at 60, and he took a couple of years to develop before turning in two good seasons and moving on to Detroit. Whitehurst did start the division-clinching season finale vs. the Rams in 2010, but he was uninspiring. And his horrendous performance in Cleveland in 2011 put the nail in his coffin. The Hawks got a little something back, though, because the Chargers brought him back in March 2012, and he netted the Hawks a seventh-round comp pick.

April 5: Traded OG Rob Sims and a seventh-rounder to Detroit for DE Robert Henderson and a fifth-rounder (S Kam Chancellor).
Result: Win.
Comment: In 2010, this looked like a possible tie as the Hawks really struggled with their O-line (not much has changed, eh?), but Chancellor quickly tipped this deal in Seattle’s favor with his rapid progress in 2011. Over the second half of 2013, he was as dominant as any defender in the league. And he turned it up again in the 2014 playoffs, especially against Carolina. Sims started every game with the Lions over the past five years and was very solid for them, so it’s not like the Lions got their butts kicked in this deal. But Seattle got a Pro Bowl safety out of it.

April 24: Acquired RB LenDale White, DT Kevin Vickerson, a fourth-rounder (CB Walter Thurmond) and a sixth (TE Anthony McCoy) from Tennessee for a fourth and sixth.
Result: Tie.
Comment: At the time, this looked like a major win. But White was cut soon after the deal, and Vickerson surprisingly was let go just before the season. Thurmond played well when he wasn’t injured or suspended, and McCoy was inconsistent until injuries cost him the 2013 and 2014 seasons. The Titans ended up with CB Alterraun Verner in the fourth, and he made the Pro Bowl in 2013 before earning a $26.5 million contract with Tampa Bay in 2014.

April 24: Acquired RB Leon Washington and a seventh-round pick (DE Dexter Davis) from the New York Jets for a fifth-round pick (RB John Conner).
Result: Win.
Comment: This looked like a great deal from the start, and Washington’s three return TDs in 2010 quickly verified that observation. Plus, the Hawks were able to keep him on a four-year deal in 2011, and he continued to run well for them in 2011-12 before they let him go in 2013 after they acquired Harvin (never liked either of those moves).

Aug. 8: Traded DE Lawrence Jackson to Detroit for a 2011 sixth-round choice (CB Byron Maxwell).
Result: Tie.
Comment: You can argue that Jackson was a bad first-round pick — he should have been a second-rounder. But this was just cutting losses. Jackson became a good rotation guy on Detroit’s line (13 sacks in three seasons) but was out of the league by 2013. Meanwhile, after two injury-plagued seasons, Maxwell ascended to Seattle’s starting lineup last season and earned a big contract from Philadelphia. That turned this from a loss to a tie. That’s as good as it gets when you dump a first-rounder for a sixth.

Aug. 16: Traded a 2011 sixth-rounder to San Francisco for DT Kentwan Balmer.
Result: Tie.
Comment: This was the reverse of the Jackson deal, sending a late-round pick on a flier for a former first-rounder. No big loss.

Aug. 31: Traded a 2012 seventh-rounder to Detroit for OT Tyler Polumbus.
Result: Win.
Comment: Polumbus started seven games for Seattle in 2010 and played in 20 before the Hawks surprisingly let him go in 2011. He has been starting for Washington since late 2011. He was a nice emergency pickup by Schneider.

Aug. 31: Traded CB Josh Wilson to Baltimore for a 2011 fifth-round choice.
Result: Loss.
Comment: I railed against this move when the Hawks dumped their best cover corner for peanuts. While they are in good shape at corner now, they weren’t when they made this deal. They went with Kelly Jennings at corner in 2010, and he failed to make a play. The Hawks ended up using that fifth-rounder in the deal with Detroit that netted them Sherman, so they basically replaced Wilson with Sherman a year later. But that doesn’t change the fact that the Seahawks should have gotten more for Wilson or, better yet, kept him over Jennings. Interesting side note: The Ravens recouped their fifth-rounder as a comp pick in 2012 for Wilson signing with Washington.

Sept. 5: Traded a 2011 seventh-rounder to Philadelphia for OT Stacy Andrews.
Result: Tie.
Comment: Just like the Balmer deal, this was nothing to give up for a guy who might have turned into something for Seattle.

Oct. 5: Traded a 2011 fourth-rounder (OL Chris Hairston) and 2012 fifth-rounder to Buffalo for RB Marshawn Lynch.
Result: Win.
Comment: That 67-yard Beast Quake touchdown run against the Saints in the 2010 playoffs was probably worth these two picks all by itself. But the Hawks have gotten four great seasons out of Lynch since then as he has been the identity of their offense — except from the 1-yard line with the Super Bowl on the line, apparently.

Oct. 11: Traded WR Deion Branch to New England for a 2011 fourth-round pick (K.J. Wright).
Result: Tie.
Comment: Yeah, the Hawks didn’t get back nearly what they gave up in what became one of the franchise’s worst trades ever, but they got more from the Patriots than they probably could have gotten from anyone else for a broken-down little wideout. And then the Hawks pulled off a nice find in Wright, who replaced Curry as the strongside starter as a rookie. Straight up, you would call that a win. But you have to factor in the 2006 first-rounder and the $39 million contract Branch cost the Seahawks. That makes it a tie.


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