How the Hawks moved down to add Green

John Schneider draftingThe Seahawks got Rasheem Green because four teams fell in love with other defenders in the first round, but should Seattle have gotten more out of moving down?

Everyone knew Seattle was going to trade down from 18 — the question was which team would be the trade partner. It was somewhat apropos that it turned out to be Green Bay, especially after John Schneider and Mike Holmgren, both former Packers, had chatted on draft day about the difficulty in trading down.

“I was talking to Coach Holmgren about … how everyone thinks you’re going to move back and it’s so easy,” Schneider said after the first day. “The board has to start falling a certain way, and you have to have certain people that want to give up and that want to come with us. Where Green Bay came from is a long way, from 27 to 18. We weren’t confident.”

But Schneider had talked to new Packers GM Brian Gutekunst in the days leading up to the draft, so Gutekunst knew Schneider wanted to move down, according to And the Packers, who started at pick 14, ended up below the Seahawks and wanted to come back up.

It happened because the Saints loved pass rusher Marcus Davenport, the Bills wanted linebacker Tremaine Edmunds, safety Derwin James fell to the Chargers and the Packers wanted cornerback Jaire Alexander.

The Packers made one of the best deals of the draft when the Saints gave them their 2019 first-rounder in a move up from 27 to 14. Many thought the Saints wanted QB Lamar Jackson, but they made the move to get the UTSA pass rusher.

Gutekunst saw Alexander sliding into the late teens and the Packers had him listed among their top 14, so the GM tried to move up to get the corner.

“When we moved back, we knew if we wanted to get one of those players, we’d probably have to move back up. That’s what drove that decision,” Gutekunst said. “If we can get back into that area where there are these same kind of players, then we will.”

Green Bay couldn’t get to 16, though, because Buffalo moved from 22 in a deal with Baltimore. And then James was there for the Chargers at 17. So that left Seattle at 18, and the Packers gave up a third and sixth and got a seventh from Seattle to make the first-round swap.

The Seahawks obviously were just happy to move down and get a third-round pick, but they should have gotten a better deal. There was no need to throw in a seventh. And Schneider should have tried to offer a fifth to get the Packers’ third next year. The math on the trade chart supports that move — picks 18 and 146 are worth about 300; 27, 76 and a 2019 mid-third are worth about 302.

Maybe Schneider did try something like that. Who knows?

“We were very active in that pick,” Pete Carroll said. “We had all kinds of stuff going on. … There (were) some options and choices, and we did what we needed to do. But when your pick comes up, that’s kind of what it is. There’s phone calls and phones ringing and phones going and choices and all of that. … We exhausted every opportunity, which there (were) numerous opportunities.”

The Packers used their top two picks on corners, adding Josh Jackson in the second round. Jackson was often mocked to Seattle in the first round. Like the Hawks, the Packers also drafted a punter in the fifth round. They also drafted three wide receivers in an attempt to replace Jordy Nelson.

The Packers will visit the Seahawks in Week 11 next season, so we’ll see how this trade worked out for both sides.

Schneider said the Seahawks were offered a deal for Rashaad Penny after they drafted him 27th overall. Cleveland reportedly was poised to draft Penny at 33rd overall, so the Browns might have been the team that tried to get him. The proper price for such a move would have been Cleveland’s fourth-rounder (fifth pick in the round). Seattle obviously valued Penny beyond that.



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