A look at John Schneider’s 31 trades

John Schneider (via Fresh Files)John Schneider has proved very adept at turning first-round picks into late-rounders, although this is the first time he has devalued his own initial trade in such fashion.

By shelling out Percy Harvin for peanuts — just to get rid of the headache receiver and his mindboggling contract — Schneider in effect turned a first-rounder, third-rounder and seventh-rounder into a sixth that could become a fourth. Now that’s some real wheelin’ and dealin’.

Obviously, that stands as Schneider’s biggest whiff in his Seattle tenure — a gamble on greatness against all odds that did not pay off. It was one of his few foul-ups in nearly five years as Seattle’s general manager.

It also is now the fourth time he has moved a player the Hawks used a first-round pick to obtain.

Schneider previously had salvaged what he could from Tim Ruskell’s first-round busts — Deion Branch, Lawrence Jackson and Aaron Curry.

Ruskell sent a first-round pick to New England for Branch in 2006 and Schneider flipped the injury-prone, overpaid wide receiver back to the Patriots for a fourth-rounder in October 2010.

In August 2010, Schneider traded Jackson — Seattle’s first-round pick in 2008 — to Detroit for a 2011 sixth-round choice that became cornerback Byron Maxwell.

Then, in October 2011, Schneider shipped out Curry, who had been a can’t-miss No. 4 overall pick in 2009. After Curry busted out due to his own admitted laziness, Schneider got what he could from Oakland: a seventh-rounder in 2012 and a fifth in 2013.

The Harvin deal is the fourth October deal Schneider has made. A week before he dealt Branch in 2010, he acquired Marshawn Lynch from Buffalo.

This was Schneider’s 31st trade in his nearly five years in Seattle, and 23 of those have involved at least one veteran player. He has acquired 15 veterans and shipped out 13.

The Harvin deal reportedly will add a sixth-round pick that could become a fourth next year. So the Seahawks are back to 11 picks in 2015, assuming four compensatory selections for free agency losses. The Harvin pick will replace the sixth-rounder they gave up for cornerback Marcus Burley, and they will have their six other picks plus expected choices in the fourth, fifth (two) and sixth rounds.

Discounting five trades that cannot yet be judged, we give Schneider a 11-4-11 (.634) record in trades — with Harvin being such a bad move that he counts as losses coming and going.

Here’s an updated breakdown:

5 trades: 0-1-1-3
April 21: Acquired QB Terrelle Pryor from Oakland for seventh-round pick (247).

Result: Tie.
Comment: Pryor counted as part of the 2014 draft class, and he might have been the best move Schneider made on Day 3 — even though this deal was done three weeks before the draft. Pryor was a third-round supplemental pick by Oakland, and he started nine games for them in 2013. Schneider had nothing to lose by taking a flier on the supremely talented athlete.

May 8: Traded No. 32 to Minnesota for No. 40 and a fourth-rounder (108).
Result: Incomplete.
Comment: If they couldn’t have traded out of the first round, the Hawks were set to take WR Paul Richardson at 32. That would have been too high. As it turned out, they moved down again and landed him at No. 45. With pick 108, they picked Cassius Marsh. The returns have not been good so far and Marsh (out 6-8 weeks with a broken foot) won’t help. But, with Harvin gone, Richardson figures to get a lot more playing time. Of course, this deal won’t be graded fully for a couple of years.

May 9: Traded down from 40 to 45 with Detroit, sending the Lions a fifth-rounder (146) and acquiring a fourth (111) and seventh (227).
Result: Incomplete.
Comment: The Hawks dropped down twice and still got the guy they wanted, Richardson. Out of this deal, they ended up with FB Kiero Small (227) and they moved down again from 111 to add yet another pick (WR Kevin Norwood). Good moves by Schneider to add another pick, even if Small did not make the team. This move will be judged by how the two receivers fare over the next couple of seasons. With Harvin gone, they get their chance starting this week.

May 10: Traded down in the fourth round (111 to 123) with Cincinnati and added a sixth-rounder (199).
Result: Incomplete.
Comment: It seems like the Hawks should have netted a fifth for this move — or at least a seventh in addition to the sixth. But they ended up with an extra player (OT Garrett Scott at 199) and still got the guy they were targeting at 111, Norwood.

Oct. 17: Traded WR Percy Harvin to N.Y. Jets for conditional 2015 pick (reportedly a sixth that can ascend to a fourth)
Result: Loss
Comment: The Hawks sent three picks to Minnesota and paid $18.4 million to a guy who played in eight of 24 possible games (including playoffs). The Hawks ended up getting screwed in this deal even worse than they were in the Branch move — although at least they didn’t send Harvin back to the same team that fleeced them to start with. It wasn’t hard to predict this ending. It’s a resounding loss — the biggest in Schneider’s four-plus years as Seattle GM.

5 trades: 1-1-1-2

March 12: Acquired WR Percy Harvin from Minnesota for No. 1, No. 7, 2014 No. 3
Result: Loss.
Comment: Schneider pulled off the biggest blockbuster of his tenure, gambling three picks and $67 million that Harvin would turn the Seahawks’ offense into a nuclear power. But Harvin had a reactor leak in his hip last year and barely played. He showed signs of what he could do in limited game action, including returning a kick for a touchdown in the Super Bowl. The Hawks tried to design their offense around him this year, but his alleged bad attitude apparently was too much to overcome, and Schneider ended up getting his ass kicked in this deal — easily the worst move he has made as Seattle GM (we warned him not to do it).

April 1: Traded QB Matt Flynn to Oakland for No. 5 in 2014 and conditional pick in 2015
Result: Win.
Comment: After paying Flynn $8 million to back up Wilson in 2012, Schneider knew he could not do it again in 2013, so he found a team that was willing to make Flynn its starter and he foisted Flynn’s $5.25 million salary off on Oakland. Flynn lost the starting job to Pryor and was released in October. The Hawks will not get the conditional pick in 2015, but they used the fifth this year to trade down in the second round and add a fourth and seventh. The fourth turned into WR Kevin Norwood and the seventh became FB Kiero Small. So, to sum it up, Schneider turned Flynn into Norwood while also saving the Hawks $3.25 million against the salary cap.

April 26: Traded No. 56 to Baltimore for No. 62 (Christine Michael), 165 and 199
April 27: Traded No. 165 and 199 to Detroit for No. 137 (Jesse Williams)
Result: Incomplete.
Comment: Schneider pulled his usual trick in the second round and moved down before drafting Michael. Then the GM used the two other picks to move up in the fifth round and draft DT Jesse Williams. Because neither Michael nor Williams has contributed, these deals have no result yet. But it’s not looking good so far.

Aug. 20: Traded OG John Moffitt to Denver for DT Sealver Siliga
Result: Tie.
Comment: The Hawks wasted a third-round pick on Moffitt, who simply didn’t have the desire to play — he retired three months after being traded and then was arrested in Chicago in March 2014 on drug possession charges. Siliga did some time on the practice squad in 2013 before finding his way onto New England’s roster. Neither team got anything out of this deal.

5 trades: 4-0-1

April 26: Dropped from 43 to 47 and picked up a fifth (154) and seventh (232) from the Eagles.
Result: Win.
Comment: The Hawks ended up adding two picks to LB Bobby Wagner (47). LB Korey Toomer (154) has not been able to stay healthy. DE Greg Scruggs (232) played quite a bit in the second half of his rookie season and then missed 2013 with an ACL injury. He did not play in the first five games this season. Wagner was a great pick, but he is not a product of this trade (they could have had him at 43).

April 26: Dropped from 12 to 15 and picked up fourth (114) and sixth (172) from the Eagles.
Result: Win.
Comment: Schneider considered dropping farther down in the first round, but he decided to grab DE Bruce Irvin at 15 because he thought the Jets would take him at 16. The pick was a reach, but Schneider got good value for it. DT Jaye Howard (114) was inactive for most of his rookie season and didn’t make the team in 2013, but CB Jeremy Lane (172) has become a special-teams standout and has seen a lot of action the past two seasons — and will see more when he comes off IR next month.

May 21: Acquired TE Kellen Winslow from Tampa Bay for a conditional sixth or seventh in 2013.
Result: Tie.
Comment: The deal was contingent on Winslow making the team, and the Hawks ended up cutting him after he balked at taking a pay cut. This deal was just a flier.

Aug. 20: Sent LB Barrett Ruud to New Orleans for seventh in 2013.
Result: Win.
Comment: Not a bad deal, trading an injured guy after you signed him to a cheap contract. The Saints ended up releasing him in October and the Hawks walked away with a seventh-rounder. The Hawks could have gotten another seven for Braylon Edwards if they had been willing to deal him in September, but they misjudged that situation and ended up getting nothing for him when they released him after the trade deadline.

Aug. 27: Sent QB Tarvaris Jackson to Buffalo for seventh in 2013.
Result: Win.
Comment: It would have been nice if the Hawks could have gotten more for him. The Bills buried him on the inactive list because they would have owed a sixth-rounder if he had been active for six games. Nice to have something for him but the Hawks mishandled him the entire way, from his inclusion in the bogus three-headed QB competition to the late deal. The fact that he was back a year later means the Hawks got a seventh-rounder for free. They used the selection in the package of picks they sent Minnesota for Percy Harvin in 2013.

3 trades: 1-0-2

April 28: Traded the No. 57 pick along with fifth- (No. 157) and seventh-round picks (209) to the Lions for third- (No. 75), fourth- (No. 107), fifth- (No. 154) and seventh-round picks (No. 205).
Result: Tie.
Comment: Schneider basically turned Seattle’s second-round pick into a third and fourth (the moves in the fifth and seventh were negligible). The Hawks ended up with OG John Moffitt (75), WR Kris Durham (107), CB Richard Sherman (154) and DE Pep Levingston (205). Yes, Sherman was easily the best player to come out of the deal, but the Hawks surely could have had him with their original fifth-rounder, so he is not really a product of this move. Moffitt and Durham were flops. If the Hawks had stood pat in the second, they could have had WR Torrey Smith or WR Randall Cobb. The value of this trade was good, but Schneider took the wrong players, so we’ll call it a tie.

Aug. 29: Traded CB Kelly Jennings to Cincinnati for DT Clinton McDonald.
Result: Win.
Comment: The Hawks drafted two corners in 2011 and also had Marcus Trufant and Roy Lewis (who knew Brandon Browner would end up being more significant than any of them?) and needed depth on the D-line. Jennings lasted just one year in Cincinnati, but McDonald played for the Hawks for three years and parlayed a surprising 2013 season into a nice contract from Tampa Bay.

Oct. 13: Traded LB Aaron Curry to Oakland for a 2012 seventh-rounder (OG J.R. Sweezy) and a fifth in 2013 (CB Tharold Simon).
Result: Tie.
Comment: We originally called this a loss simply because dumping the fourth overall pick should be a loss unless you come up with some great stuff out of it. But Curry’s admission that he was a lazy slug who did not try once he got paid removes much of the blame from the team. Plus, Sweezy has turned into a solid starter at right guard, and the Hawks still have high hopes for Simon, even though he did not even see the field as a rookie and is only now about to make his NFL debut. The only way this could become a win is if Sweezy or Simon turned into a Pro Bowl player.

13 trades: 5-2-6

March 8: Traded QB Seneca Wallace to Cleveland for a conditional seventh-rounder in 2011.
Result: Tie.
Comment: When this deal was originally made, it seemed like a loss, simply because it seemed Schneider could have gotten one of Mike Holmgren’s three fifth-round picks in the 2010 draft. Wallace started seven games for the Browns over two years and is now out of the league. The seventh-rounder the Hawks got went to Detroit in that Moffitt-Durham deal. So basically, the Hawks traded Wallace for Pep Levingston. Nothing for either side to crow about.

March 16: Traded DE Darryl Tapp to Philadelphia for DE Chris Clemons and a fourth-rounder (DE E.J. Wilson).
Result: Win.
Comment: Clemons had 33.5 sacks in his first three years before tearing his ACL in the 2012 playoffs and getting cut after the 2013 Super Bowl season. Tapp had six sacks in three years for Philly and is now in Detroit. This is obviously one of Schneider’s best trades, even though Wilson did not work out.

March 17: Acquired QB Charlie Whitehurst and a second-round pick (60, WR Golden Tate) from San Diego for a second-rounder (40, RB Ryan Mathews) and a 2011 third-rounder (DB Shareece Wright).
Result: Loss.
Comment: This deal was a loss when it was made, based on what the Seahawks gave up for a third-string QB. The Chargers used the second-rounder to move up in the first round and draft Mathews. The Hawks drafted Tate at 60, and he took a couple of years to develop before turning in two good seasons and moving on to Detroit. Whitehurst did start the division-clinching season finale vs. the Rams in 2010, but he was uninspiring. And his horrendous performance in Cleveland in 2011 put the nail in his coffin. The Hawks got a little something back, though, because the Chargers brought him back in March 2012, and he netted the Hawks a seventh-round comp pick.

April 5: Traded OG Rob Sims and a seventh-rounder to Detroit for DE Robert Henderson and a fifth-rounder (S Kam Chancellor).
Result: Win.
Comment: In 2010, this looked like a possible tie as the Hawks really struggled with their O-line, but Chancellor quickly tipped this deal in Seattle’s favor with his rapid progress in 2011. Over the second half of last season, he was as dominant as any defender in the league. Sims has started every game with the Lions over the past four-plus years and been solid for them, so it’s not like the Lions got their butts kicked in this deal. But Seattle got a Pro Bowl safety out of it.

April 24: Acquired RB LenDale White, DT Kevin Vickerson, a fourth-rounder (CB Walter Thurmond) and a sixth (TE Anthony McCoy) from Tennessee for a fourth and sixth.
Result: Tie.
Comment: At the time, this looked like a major win. But White was cut soon after the deal, and Vickerson surprisingly was let go just before the season. Thurmond played well when he wasn’t injured or suspended, and McCoy was inconsistent until injuries cost him the 2013 and 2014 seasons. The Titans ended up with CB Alterraun Verner in the fourth, and he made the Pro Bowl in 2013 before moving earning a $26.5 million contract with Tampa Bay this offseason.

April 24: Acquired RB Leon Washington and a seventh-round pick (DE Dexter Davis) from the New York Jets for a fifth-round pick (RB John Conner).
Result: Win.
Comment: This looked like a great deal from the start, and Washington’s three return TDs in 2010 quickly verified that observation. Plus, the Hawks were able to keep him on a four-year deal in 2011, and he continued to run well for them in 2011-12 before they let him go in 2013 after they acquired Harvin.

Aug. 8: Traded DE Lawrence Jackson to Detroit for a 2011 sixth-round choice (CB Byron Maxwell).
Result: Tie.
Comment: You can argue that Jackson was a bad first-round pick — he should have been a second-rounder. But this was just cutting losses. Jackson became a good rotation guy on Detroit’s line (13 sacks in three seasons) but was out of the league by 2013. Meanwhile, after two injury-plagued seasons, Maxwell ascended to Seattle’s starting lineup last season and has played very well. That turned this from a loss to a tie. That’s as good as it gets when you dump a first-rounder for a sixth.

Aug. 16: Traded a 2011 sixth-rounder to San Francisco for DT Kentwan Balmer.
Result: Tie.
Comment: This was the reverse of the Jackson deal, sending a late-round pick on a flier for a former first-rounder. No big loss.

Aug. 31: Traded a 2012 seventh-rounder to Detroit for OT Tyler Polumbus.  
Result: Win.
Comment: Polumbus started seven games for Seattle in 2010 and played in 20 before the Hawks surprisingly let him go in 2011. He has been starting for Washington since late 2011. He was a nice emergency pickup by Schneider.

Aug. 31: Traded CB Josh Wilson to Baltimore for a 2011 fifth-round choice.
Result: Loss.
Comment: I railed against this move when the Hawks dumped their best cover corner for peanuts. While they are in good shape at corner now, they weren’t when they made this deal. They went with Kelly Jennings at corner in 2010, and he failed to make a play. The Hawks ended up using that fifth-rounder in the deal with Detroit that netted them Sherman, so they basically replaced Wilson with Sherman a year later. But that doesn’t change the fact that the Seahawks should have gotten more for Wilson or, better yet, kept him over Jennings. Interesting side note: The Ravens recouped their fifth-rounder as a comp pick in 2012 for Wilson signing with Washington last year.

Sept. 5: Traded a 2011 seventh-rounder to Philadelphia for OT Stacy Andrews. Result: Tie.
Comment: Just like the Balmer deal, this was nothing to give up for a guy who might have turned into something for Seattle. 

Oct. 5: Traded a 2011 fourth-rounder (OL Chris Hairston) and 2012 fifth-rounder to Buffalo for RB Marshawn Lynch.
Result: Win.
Comment: That 67-yard touchdown run against the Saints in the 2010 playoffs was probably worth these two picks all by itself. But the Hawks have gotten three great seasons out of Lynch since then as he has been the identity of their offense — when they get him the ball. 

Oct. 11: Traded WR Deion Branch to New England for a 2011 fourth-round pick (K.J. Wright).
Result: Tie.
Comment: Yeah, the Hawks didn’t get back nearly what they gave up in what became one of the franchise’s worst trades ever, but they got more from the Patriots than they probably could have gotten from anyone else for a broken-down little wideout. And then the Hawks pulled off a nice find in Wright, who replaced Curry as the strongside starter as a rookie. Straight up, you would call that a win. But you have to factor in the 2006 first-rounder and the $39 million contract Branch cost the Seahawks. That makes it a tie.


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